The following are excerpts of a letter sent to Barton Bleil at Precision Boat Works. His reply is listed below. On the early morning of July 5, 2004, there was a thunderstorm with strong but not gale force winds. That evening, the P-185 capsized while moored. No other sailboats had either loosened from their mooring or capsized. On Saturday, July 31 st , I sailed with my 80 year-old father. The winds were Gale Force 3-4 (10-18 knots). There were no white caps on the water, but the swells were 1-2’. We sailed using only the mainsail, starting out in a broad reach with the wind coming from starboard and the board up. The winds were changing rapidly and unpredictably. When the wind shifted again, the boat began to uncontrollably heel. I completely released the mainsheet all the way to the figure-8 knot in an effort to immediately de-power the boat. I tried to aggressively to point the bow of the boat into the wind, but by this time the tiller must have been out of the water. The boat began a slow capsize. We both had Type III vests on and were thrown into the water. But then things really got ugly. Because of the near absence of compensatory hull weight, the mast and mainsail failed to hesitate on the water’s surface, instead accelerating downward once they hit the water. As the hull rapidly went from a 90 to a 180 degree capsize, I could see that my father was getting trapped underneath. In an instant, I also took note of the fact that the open transom, convenient as it is when the boat is upright, prevented a safety air bubble in the suddenly inverting cockpit. Instantly, I reached underneath, grabbed a piece of his clothing, braced my legs against the hull and yanked with strength greater than I knew was in me, and brought him out to safety. The story has a good ending. My father, on the day before his 81 st birthday, survived and was petrified but uninjured. Sorry to learn of your sailing mishap with the boat. Sailing dinghies with centerboard designs of all brands and sizes can and occasionally do capsize under various wind & wave conditions. They are not ballasted self-righting boats. While I appreciate and understand your opinion, the boat was sailed by professionals and subsequently name Boat of the Year in November 2002. And Jim Taylor, our designer, has always given us well mannered boats and the 185 is no exception. He has an enviable track record of developing not only great small boats but his larger custom & production boats are wonderful designs as well. The 185 has been sailed extensively for several years and presently there are over 75 P-185's out sailing and while we have not heard from all of the owners, the ones we have heard from are enjoying the boat very much. Best regards, The following letter was written from a professional evaluator of sailboat design: Thanks for your note. Most sailors like lively boats because that usually means that they're responsive to the helm and have good acceleration. But what you're describing sounds decidedly unsafe . Now, keep in mind that I say "sounds," because no one can make such a judgment without examining a boat and testing it firsthand. I've seen Precision 185s, but I've never had the chance to play around with one on the water, so I'm not qualified to make that judgment. I suspect that you own the centerboard version of this boat, and likely your centerboard was tucked up in the trunk when your boat turned over on the mooring. (After writing that last sentence, I then read your letter to Precision and learned that you did own the centerboard version.) Nonetheless, it is uncommon for any boat to capsize on its mooring, and doing so would likely require an uncanny combination of high winds and rough seas. Jim Taylor is a naval architect with strong credentials, so we're surprised that a boat from his CAD system would suffer such problems, but there are always a number of factors at play when things go awry, not all of them instantly clear. We're just speculating here, but there's a chance that the boat you bought wasn't built to the exact specifications that came from Jim Taylor, and the weight was distributed unevenly in the hull with too much of it in the upper topsides. Or perhaps the weight in the centerboard wasn't properly located. None of these possibilities can be proven now, but we'd at least expect the folks at Precision to offer you more of an explanation than what you tell us you received. Their own website pronounces that "Each boat is carefully crafted with totally hand-laminated fiberglass construction and provides excellent performance and sailing characteristics." What you've described if far from excellent. We recommend that you send your description to both Sailing World and to Jim Taylor, and seek their comments. We'd be happy to get further involved as we think your situation merits some investigation and we wouldn't want others to have the same experience you did. However, it seems fitting that both those other parties be offered the chance to weigh in here first. Thanks again for contacting us, and we'll look forward to being in touch with you. (Name withheld to protect author) Letters from another sailor who experienced similar problem with the P-185 I wish I had seen your website prior to buying our Precision 185 this past Fall. I was looking for a small sailboat in which my wife and I could safely sail our two kids (both under 5yrs old) around in. Having not been an avid sailor, I turned to my Father-in-law (avid sailor of 30+ years) to give me some advice. I think he read the review in Sailing World and believed the boat to be a good choice. We recently put the boat in the water and decided to sail it from the launch to the dock in front of my in-laws home. I enlisted the help of my Father-in-Law since I trusted his sailing capabilities more than mine. It was a bright sunny day, the wind was about 5-10 knots, nothing to worry about except for the occasional puff of stronger wind. On one particular puff, the wind caught our sail (which we did not realize the line was cleated) and when I pulled on the tiller the wrong way, the boat turtled. When I arose from the water, I completely expected us right the boat, but instead found my Father-in-Law clinging to the rudder and yelling at me to send up a flare. The boat turtled just as you described, except it wasn't completely turned over. It was at a slight angle and several hours later, after donning dive gear and lift bags, we realized that the tall mast had buried its end in the soft muddy bed. That actually saved us from being caught under the boat. -------------------------------------------------------------- I have enjoyed my Precision 185, but do find it touchy. However, one time I was out sailing with two other adults in strong winds, no white caps but strong winds. We caught a gust and it flipped us over and the boat promptly turtled. It was very difficult to right as it had taken a large quantity a water into the hull. Luckily a small motor boat came along and helped us right the boat and then towed us to shore. The centerboard did disappear into the hold which made the possibility of righting the boat that much more difficult. I have considered adding a floating bulb to the top of the mast for safety purposes, very unsightly but should reduce the likelihood of the boat turtling in the future. If and when a boat does get suddenly overpowered by an unexpected blast, it should automatically turn itself into the wind so it will straighten up even if the skipper is asleep at the tiller. (manufacturer of popular 22' sailboat. name withheld to protect author) Great choice! Your favorites are temporarily saved for this session. Sign in to save them permanently, access them on any device, and receive relevant alerts. 2004 Precision 185Seller's DescriptionThe perfect Single handed day sailboat. If are over 50 years old you will be able to raise and lower the mast with one hand. And if you are less than 50 years old, only 2 fingers! This Orecision you185 is totally upgraded to do it! 1) Remote controlled power winch 2024. 2) Deep cycle battery 2024. 3)Solar panel connected to the battery 2024. 4) Mast Raising system 2034. At the stern of the sailboat going from 3feet to 9 feet high. 5) Did change all the pins and rings to Quick release pin (Quicker, safer and more secure). 6) New Suzuki 2.5 hp. Light, start right away and use minimum gas. 7) New 2 tires and wheels on the trailer. 8) This boat is a great design and in great shape as well as the ssils and the righing. 9) I sail a lot of sailboat, the precision 185 move in 2/3 knots of wind, plane at 8 and it is a blast at 10/15 Rig and SailsAuxilary power, accomodations, calculations. The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more. Classic hull speed formula: Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL Sail Area / Displacement RatioA measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more. SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3 - SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
- D : Displacement in pounds.
Ballast / Displacement RatioA measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize. Ballast / Displacement * 100 Displacement / Length RatioA measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more. D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³ - D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
- LWL: Waterline length in feet
Comfort RatioThis ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more. Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 ) - D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
- LOA: Length overall in feet
- Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet
Capsize Screening FormulaThis formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more. CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64) Centerboard Model: Draft Board up: 0.5’ Board down: 4.83’ Embed this page on your own website by copying and pasting this code. Similar Sailboats For SaleO'Connell's PubPlanning your trip, pay attention to House of Apraksin - Trubetskikh Estate and remember to choose where to eat: this restaurant is right aside the mentioned attraction. If you like Irish and Mediterranean cuisines, then O'Connell's Pub is worth checking out. You can always try perfectly cooked burgers , steaks and fried prawns at this place. It's time to degustate delicious stout , wine or gin . Good tea , tonic or coffee are waiting for you at this spot. Live music is performed by musicians in the evening. A number of reviewers consider employees courteous. If you want to enjoy enjoyable service, you should visit this restaurant. O'Connell's Pub has got Google 4.5 according to the visitors' opinions. Restaurant menuFrequently mentioned in reviews, ratings of o'connell's pub, visitors' opinions on o'connell's pub. SundaySun | 12PM-11PM | MondayMon | 12PM-11PM | TuesdayTue | 12PM-11PM | WednesdayWed | 12PM-11PM | ThursdayThu | 12PM-11PM | FridayFri | 12PM-3AM | SaturdaySat | 12PM-3AM | Food guides for travelersSimilar restaurants nearbyTasty dishes in moscow. Restaurant features in Moscowczwartek, 20 stycznia 2011Moscow trojan skins interview. - :: ARTYKUŁY
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The PRECISION 185 will make her mark by using true state-of-the-art design and construction technology to combine vastly improved ergonomics and higher performance with low weight, low maintenance, and low cost. ... PRECISION BOAT WORKS continues to focus entirely on small boats, and their long experience and expertise in this market is second ...
PRECISION 185. Save to Favorites . Beta Marine. BOTH. US IMPERIAL. METRIC. Sailboat Specifications Definitions Hull Type: Fin w/transom hung rudder ... Like the LWL, it will vary with the weights of fuel, water, stores and equipment. A boat's actual draft is usually somewhat more than the original designed or advertised draft. For boats with ...
Good Morning, Sawyers Island, If you check the sailboatdata site you will find information on the Precision models and many other sailboats. Notably, the 185 hull had been built in two different designs: a Centerboard model which (I think) has a very light centerboard like the Precision 18 we owned and a keel model with 3.5 ft draft and 375 pound ballast.
2003 Precision 185 in Excellent Condition Comes with a Single-Axel Trailer Equipped with 3.3 HP Mercury Outboard Motor Running Rigging in Good Condition New Listing! Basic Boat Info Make: Precision Model: 185 Year: 2003 Condition: Used Category: Sail Builder: Precision Boat Works Designer: Jim Taylor Construction: Fiberglass
18.5'. Precision Sailboat Precision 185. The perfect Single handed day sailboat. If you are over 50 years old you will be able to raise and lower the mast with one hand. And if you are less than 50 years old, only 2 fingers! This Precision 185 is totally upgraded to do it! 1) Remote controlled power winch 2024. 2) Deep cycle battery 2024.
my precision 185 cb (centerboard version) the precision 185 is also offered in a keel version. this web page references the centerboard version only, which is the version that received the glowing sailing world's boat of the year honors.the stability problems of the centerboard version described below are now better understood in light of its indictors posted on sailboatdata.com, which reveals ...
2003 Precision 185 in Excellent Condition Comes with a Single-Axel Trailer Equipped with 3.3 HP Mercury Outboard Motor Running Rigging in Good Condition ... Basic Boat Info Make: Precision Model: 185 Year: 2003 Condition: Used Category: Sail Builder: Precision Boat Works Designer: Jim Taylor Construction: Fiberglass Boat Hull ID: PCWI9022E203 ...
2004 Precision 185 Fixed Keel. P-185 K Hull #1, the personal boat of Precision Boatworks President, Bill Porter. Only sailed a few times this past summer and fall. Boat currently at Sarasota Sailing Squadron, Sarasota, Florida. LOA - 18' 5''.
Iowa. $4,500. Description: Great condition. Like new. 11 foot cockpit that can easily seat 4. Includes trailer, sails (like new), rudder, 2.5 hp (2014) Yamaha 4 stroke outboard. Immaculate condition. Clean gelcoat hull. All sails and rigging in near new shape.
Contact Seller 2009 Precision 185,2009 Precision 185 18.5 foot sailboat with 2.5 hp outboard. New sails with reef. Swing keel. Trailer included, in good condition. Seat cushions. Includes life jackets and other accessories.Perfect boat for bay sailing and short trips. Does well in light winds.
See boat pictures, videos, and detailed specs. Advanced Search. Guides . Boating Destinations: the Bahamas; ... 2005 Precision 185 Daysailer Sailboat. Back to Results > Sail > Daysailers > 2005 18' Precision 185 This listing is no longer active. 1 / 6. Sales Status Sold;
Buy Precision 185. Precision 185 for sale on DailyBoats.com are listed for a range of prices, valued from $3,500 on the more basic models to $9,995 for the most expensive. The boats can differ in size from 5.49 m to 5.61 m. The oldest one built in 1996 year. This page features Precision boats located in countries: United States of America.
Precision 185, 2003 sailboat for sale in Excellent Condition. Comes with a Single-Axel Trailer Equipped with 3.3 HP Mercury Outboard Motor Running Rigging in Good Condition. Sails & Rigging Main Sail with Four Battens One Roller Furling Jib Tiller with Tiller Extension Two Upper Shrouds and Two Lower Shrouds Running Rigging in Good Condition.
Go to Sailing Texas classifieds for current sailboats for sale . 2005 Precision 185 Length: 18.5 feet I bought this Precision 185 daysailer new in May 2005 from Hooper's Yachts in Afton, Minnesota and have sailed it around 25 times on Lake Macbride in Iowa. It's never been in saltwater. It's in excellent like-new condition.
Precision 185. $7,185 $7,800. Listed 7 weeks ago. 7 weeks ago. in Loudon, TN. Message. Message. Save. Save. Share. Details. Condition. Used - Good. Band Color. white. Precision is one of the top quality boats to be made. This is a 18 and half foot, 2007 with Honda 2HP motor. All in great condition. Sail and jib, swing keel. Seat cushions. Brand ...
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6) New Suzuki 2.5 hp. Light, start right away and use minimum gas. 7) New 2 tires and wheels on the trailer. 8) This boat is a great design and in great shape as well as the ssils and the righing. 9) I sail a lot of sailboat, the precision 185 move in 2/3 knots of wind, plane at 8 and it is a blast at 10/15
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4'. Ohio. $5,000. Description: The Precision 185 is a great boat to get started sailing on! The P185 is a. combination of good sailing characteristics and substantial construction. The. boat performs well and it handles well both upwind and down.
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