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Anyone sailed a 14' American?

  • Thread starter themadscientist
  • Start date May 21, 2010
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themadscientist

themadscientist

This craft. http://www.americansail.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=6&Itemid=7 I have a line on one, the price and terms of sale are still being discussed. Everything I can find on it suggests it would be a great starter boat for me. I have no experience and am trying to get into a sailing course. I have a very small budget and am looking for a boat that: 1. Is within my budget to purchase and prepare to seaworthiness; it is. 2. Has a positive flotation hull; this does. 3. Has a main and foresail rig so I can learn the handling of two sails; it does. 4. Does not require marina storage; it doesn't. 5. Can confidently and safely carry two; it seems to. I would appreciate any first-hand experiences from those that have owned or had the opportunity to sail this boat, or one similar to it. My one concern is its stability in coastal waters. I would be using it in calm seas around a pacific island.  

Tom Hoffman

Tom Hoffman

You might want to do a site search for Sumner's posts. He sails a 26' water balast boat and he and his wife were brand new to sailing. They took their boat to a lake and proceeded to learn on their own. The 14' boat you are looking at is definitely a beginner boat. I sure wouldn't want to take it into the ocean. I think you will find very quickly that it is not much more than a toy and now you will be faced with selling it and moving up looking for something with more capability. This fall there will be a huge number of boats forsale. I bought a 26' American (different mfg.) in Feb, with trailer included, for $1500. I have had to spend about an additional $1000 to get it ready to sail this next month. The original asking price on Craig's list was $2500. It was iced up in Feb in Iowa and the seller was motivated. Keep looking is my advice. Tom...  

I didn't mean to rain on your idea. I guess I am of the school of American thought: "If a little is good, a lot has just got to be better!" Pay me no attention. I am just frustrated right now trying to get my boat bottom painted and every time I have it scheduled, my helper decides to not show up that day. I would do it my self, except that I don't fit into tight places anymore. Have a good night.  

sinnettc

It really depends on what the conditions are like where you'll sail. If you're in a protected harbor and the water isn't freezing cold year round then this might be ok. I live in Oregon where the ocean is cold and the wind/waves are usually strong/big even in the summer; I wouldn't take it on the ocean. My last boat was a Capri 16.5, not much bigger than what you're looking at, and I really wouldn't consider taking it out on the ocean either. I would use it in a harbor though. If you do go this route there are a few things you should do: 1) Always wear a life jacket - ALWAYS 2) Capsize the boat under controlled conditions (near the beach) and make sure you can right it. I didn't with the 16.5 and came *very* close to wishing I had. 3) If it has a tendency to turtle (go completely upside down) then consider getting a mast float. 4) Make sure you can climb back in the boat from the water. If it's at all difficult near the beach imagine what it will be like in the middle of the harbor with nobody around. Add a fold up step or a fold up ladder to the stern. 5) If you don't have reef points in your main, consider having them added 6) If you think you need to reef then you already should have! I do think there is some advantage to learning to sail in small boats first. The sail controls are often simpler and the action/reaction when you change something is pretty quick and obvious. My progression was as follows: Family trips on Dad's 25' full keel sloop as a kid. Learned basics - rules of the road, raise/lower sails, basic sail trim using the sheets. 30 years later . . . Laser - refresh basic skills, learned about vang, cunningham, outhaul, and daggerboard. Not very effective or comfortable sailing with 2 people. Draft about 3 inches with the board up, 2 feet with it down, expect to capsize often. Takes 10 minutes to set up. Wetsuit a requirement in cold conditions. Capri 16.5 - Added a furling jib to the equation, swing centerboard, stayed mast, reef points and jiffy reefing for the main. Draft is 6 inches with the board up, about 3-1/2 feet with it down. Good for 3 adults or 2 adults and a couple of kids. Huge cuddy forward where you can store lunch, dry clothes, etc. Takes 30-45 minutes to set up. Not as wet as the laser but not a dry ride either and will capsize/turtle. Capri 22 - Adds racing foil and multiple jibs/Genoas, adjustable jib/genoa cars, windward sheeting traveller, and adjustable backstay to the mix; also a spinnaker I haven't figured out yet. 4 foot fixed keel and 30 foot mast. Easily sails with 4-6 adults/kids. Has porta potty and sleeps 2 comfortably. Get to worry about things like batteries, outboards, nav lights, water depth and bridge clearance. Takes 2-3 hours to set up. We rarely get wet and that's usually just a bit of spray. Good luck and let us know what you decide to do.  

Tom Hoffman said: I didn't mean to rain on your idea. I guess I am of the school of American thought: "If a little is good, a lot has just got to be better!" Pay me no attention. I am just frustrated right now trying to get my boat bottom painted and every time I have it scheduled, my helper decides to not show up that day. I would do it my self, except that I don't fit into tight places anymore. Have a good night. Click to expand

RECESS

I think you are getting a great boat for your area. I would not hesitate to take that into the ocean. I have taken a lot less several miles off shore. When I lived in the Azores the locals took row boats more than 7 miles offshore to fish. The way it is built looks like it is designed to keep the spray to a minimum from coming over the bow and sides. It looks a lot more seaworthy than many of the 22 foot sailboats I see out in the Gulf of Mexico that were really designed for lake sailing. You just have to watch the weather closely and never push it. I bet you can do some great near shore fishing on that boat.  

A few more notes. I watched the video again on the site. There are two additions I would make to the boat right away. If that traveler guide on the stern of the boat is rope or synthetic, I would replace it with SS cable right away. The last thing you want in a knock down situation is to have your boom and mainsail disabled because a gust of wind took out the traveler guide rope. Second I would get a good strength trolling motor and install to one side of the transom. It really kills a great day on the ocean to have the wind die and you have to paddle or swim the boat back to shore, I have done it too many times. The other thing you will find with a trolling motor is that you use the boat more often. There are days when you just do not feel like raising the mast but a nice motor out for a half hour is nice.  

RECESS said: If that traveler guide on the stern of the boat is rope or synthetic, I would replace it with SS cable right away. The last thing you want in a knock down situation is to have your boom and mainsail disabled because a gust of wind took out the traveler guide rope. Click to expand
RECESS said: Second I would get a good strength trolling motor and install to one side of the transom. It really kills a great day on the ocean to have the wind die and you have to paddle or swim the boat back to shore, I have done it too many times. The other thing you will find with a trolling motor is that you use the boat more often. There are days when you just do not feel like raising the mast but a nice motor out for a half hour is nice. Click to expand

I had a traveler rope (that had some age and wear) snap once on Lake Monroe Florida. Really shallow lake that forms white caps fast. Scared the wife. I was able to tie off in a center position and keep on going.  

I took a good look at it today. It is in a lot of four that were used as rental boats. Three are pretty scuffed-up, I picked the nicest of the lot to bid on. The hull is solid with no cracks that I could detect, it could use a good polish and wax of course. The hardware is all stainless. It all could do with a polish, not rusty just cruddy. The blocks are Harken and spin freely, no winches. The rudder blade is fine but the two metal sheets it is sandwiched in and the tiller are junk. All the lines should be replaced. The sails are jammed in the forward storage, it's a toss-up on those, but what I see looks serviceable. It is a rope traveler and I will swap it for cable as suggested or something equivalently significant. The drop-down centerboard needs to be taken apart and serviced. Overall, I see a solid hull that needs no repairs, just cleaning. hardware to remove, clean and shine up. a rudder to be rebuilt. a centerboard system to clean and service. a couple of yards of line to replace. a traveler system to upgrade. No deal-breakers for me there. I won't know until the end of June if I won the auction so back the daily grind and we will see what transpires.  

Get the the March/April issue of Good Old Boat. It has an outstanding how to on building a rudder the right way on pages 35 through 41. It is not just a good article, it is an outstanding how to on building rudders. The project they did was for a large boat, but all the techniques apply to any size rudder. You can order the back issue online, it will be worth the $10 for oversees ording if you are going to build a rudder. http://www.goodoldboat.com/reader_services/back_issues.php#2010  

esterhazyinoz

esterhazyinoz

Good luck on your auction bid. I'm sure you will love the benefits of a small boat that is easy to launch/sail/maintain. I just purchased a new Hunter 15, a similar boat to the American, Catalina 14.6, Precision 15 and probably many more that I am not aware of. I launched my boat for the first time this weekend on the Swan River in Perth, Western Australia. Fortunately the winds were only 5-10 knots, a civilised wind speed for my first time in this small boat. As to whether or not I would take a 15 footer on the ocean really depends on what conditions are usual in your part of the world. I used to sail a 21 foot daysailer of local design and with the strong winds during the summer here I was always glad to have a good deal of lead under the boat. From my first outing I saw that maintaining balance by correct positioning of the crew was going to be very important. Also make sure you have a mainsheet block system that allows you to quickly release the sheet to spill the wind and de-power. FYI, a set of new sails will probably cost you about $600-$700 (that is what a replacement set from North Sails cost for my Hunter). BTW, What is the typical wind strength and swell in your area?  

Hi I teach a basic sailing course at Budd Lake, NJ thru a group called SEAS. Our current fleet is made up of Aqua Finns and an American 14.6, with a few other boats for variety. We have had 2 14.6’s over the years. One of the reasons that we went with the 14’s is that American sail has beefed up the hulls of their boats where they normally get hit by students. (bow, sides) Also- for the same size boat they were a lot less expensive. And there was a spinnaker sail available. The boat is definably designed for protected waters, but that said I have had it out in white caps and small craft conditions, and on the Hudson River.( well that day was a race, and the wind was less than the current in the opposite direction, so I was heading north and making progress south J ). The sizing of the spars and lines is sufficient for the size of the boat, but it may not be for your conditions. I have dismasted it, but I had brought a safety boat along side and then caught the port shroud as I pulled away. The boat will turtle, but that has not been a problem as the lake is much shallower that the height of the mast. Our sister chapter in Westchester, NY does put floats at the top of the masts. When we had to repair the centerboard our maintenance crew installed an access port on the port side of the trunk. When using the spinnaker remember that the pad eye on the mast that receives the spinnaker pole may not be at the correct elevation. It depends on the cut of the sail. It could use a j\iffy reef system, but ours did not come with it. I have used the rock detection function of the centerboard (not on purpose) but the center board release worked well when needed. Please note there are no attachment points for safety lines. This is a beamy boat and the jib fairleads are fixed. I do not normally get a tight beat with this boat. I can get the Finns to point higher. But then again our 14.6 sails are really blown out. The mast is easy to raise and lower, but it is easier to find the split rings and cotter pins that get dropped if you raise/lower your mast over flat ground, and not when it is in the water (been there…). When we took it out of the water in the fall we pulled it up over a roller and on to the grass. We needed 4 strong people. There is a drain plug center stern. If that cavity needs constant draining then there are hairline cracks (or larger). Check the spec hull weight against the actual weight. You will need a manual bilge pump and a scoop. The cockpit will hold rain water, etc. Spin sail, pump and scoops will fit in the front storage area. I will usually place 2 canoe paddles in the boat. If the wind dies 1 paddler on each side will get us back to the beach. I can single hand this boat, assuming I do not need another body for movable ballast. What I will do is knot the 2 jib sheets so that I can always reach them. With 2 people it is good. With 3 people in the boat the 14 is faster than the Aqua Finns and I will have the helms person switch to the windward side as req’d. . With 4 people in the boat the Finns are faster, and it depends on the wind as to who moves. I have had 6 people on board in heavier winds and the boat is fun. Lighter winds with 6 people the boat does not move. Dave down at American Sail does stand behind his products. I have met him several times at the various boats shows that he does on the East coast(Atlantic City and Annapolis ) and parts are still available. Check to see if there are other 14’s in your area. Local support is really important. Hillary  

Especially examine the standing rigging. The boat has been in use by relatively ignorant types [assume this in a rental fleet.] and has probably been worked hard. If it breezes up suddenly assume that you will want the extra strength of slightly heavier standing rigging. Once you are in unprotected water the ability to stay together is very important. I am Hillary's companion and agree that these are able boats. You have to keep up with the maintainence even in a fiberglass boat. Inspect the bilges regularly making sure you drain the hull. This will also keep you posted on the condition of the hull and its tightness. In addition to wearing a life jacket, make it a point to wear the jacket for an hour or two before you purchase it. If it feels comfortable, you are more likely to wear it. Eric  

If you are interested in roller furling, make sure that you upgrade the headstay at least one size. You will be adding new loads to the stay and it can get embarassing if it goes away out on the water. Eric If you have the standard jib on the boat you don't need roller furling. Just add a line to be used as a downhaul from the jib head, run down to the bow and then back to the cockpit. But if you want to go with the roller check with Dave re your conditions to see if he recomends upping the hardware and which hardware to upgrade (forestay down to fasteners) If you are considering it for reefing purposes then yes, and make sure the main can be reefed as well. Also because the shrouds are aft of the mast (better for stresses) the jib lines are usually run outside. which does not give a tight beat. Hillary  

I have a 13' CHrysler Pirateer. I sail it on Lake Michigan close to shore also. I have a ton of fun in that little boat. It is a great way to learn to sail. However, before I every went onto the water I went to ASA sailing school. I have dumped it and was able to climb back in. Adrenaline was running high the first time. Couldn't get back in the second time but I was so close to shore I walked the boat in. Buy it and have fun with it. Use it for a teder for your next boat. Oh yeah, whatever you pay for it you will spend exactly that much on it right away....mark my words. Here's a photo of mine. Boat cost $125.00. After trailer, paint job, spare mast and sails I have $1000.00 invested. http://members.csinet.net/dhapp/pirateer/Chrysler_Pirateer_Page_1.html  

That's a very similar-looking craft. So far, it appears interest in the boat is low. They have a lot of four and I am cautiously optimistic about my chances. The authorities have indicated I am ok with no operator's permit so I can get out on the water directly. Also, I am confirmed for my basic keelboat class in August! :dance:  

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Testimonials

(American 18)  I bought my American 18 five years ago .  I had looked at the competition but was ready to buy when I emailed American Sail and got a quick reply from Dave Stanton.  I asked him to help me decide which was the better boat for me.  He chuckled saying this was his easist reply of the day.  Hands down he had me swayed.  I definietely made the right choice.  Doing business with American Sail was a positive experience.  They gave me the feeling although they were a great distance away, that I was doing business with the folks next door.  I frequently sail in Salem harbor in Massachusettes.  As a trailer sailor, I often get compliments about the American 18 at the boat ramp.  Others marvel at how well the boat is made as well as how quick and easy it is to rig and launch.  It also is roomy and the seating is easy on the back.  It is a great confidence builder for anyone graduating from a sunfish style boat.  I am looking forward to many happy trouble free years ahead sailing my 18.  Many thanks for building a great boat as well as a great reputation.

Marshall R., Dracut, MA

(American 18)  I can launch and retrieve the boat, as well as raise and lower the mast by myself.  My 4 cylinder Camry does a good job of pulling the boat.  We have used the boat on Raritan Bay, Lake Hopatcong, and Spruce Run Reservoir.  The boat seats four adults comfortably.  I have especially appreciated the people at American Sail who have been very friendly and helpful.  We are having a lot of fun with this boat and I would recommend the American 18  to anyone who is looking for what I think is a safe, stable daysailer.

Hal S., Montclair, NJ

(American 14.6 I began sailing in 1963, eventually owned a small “wet” boat, but had gotten away from sailing until the desire re-surfaced a few years ago.  In the spring and summer of 2008 I began looking for a used sail boat in “ready-to-sail” condition using various on-line sources. I also checked new boat models and prices, but decided to buy used based on my personal economic situation. After locating several options and getting the input of a life-long friend, boat owner, sailor, and racer, who knew me and what I wanted in a boat very well, I narrowed the choice to three, one of them being the American Sail 14.6 model.  After looking up information at respective web sites, I contacted American Sail to inquire about a specially priced “boat show special” 14.6 whose price was “enticing” even compared to used boat prices.  Unfortunately I was one prospective buyer too late and missed out on the deal.   American Sail’s owner gave me helpful suggestions on things to look for, as well as avoid, in used boat buying.  Finally, the used American Sail model I wanted was listed  and after having another friend look it over for me on site [with me talking to him on his cell phone], I bought it.  I was thrilled to get it and loved using it.  Setting it up and actually sailing it was as easy as advertised at their web site and on the water it exceeded my expectations for a boat of its size and design. My longtime sailing buddy who advised me during my search sailed for a day with me and was very impressed with the boat and its lively, but stable, performance and responsiveness, and ease of use.  I later e-mailed Dave at American Sail, somewhat reluctantly, to tell him I had bought an American Sail boat finally, even though it wasn’t the new one he had been promoting.  When I mentioned that no instructions were with it, he promptly mailed me a packet of information that would have come with the boat.  From my initial inquiries about American Sail boats, through my shopping online for used models [American Sail and various other manufacturers of similar-sized boats] folks at American Sail [especially the president] have treated me with first-class consideration and assistance.  Even after acquiring a used American Sail 14.6 boat in a private sale,  American Sail has responded to numerous additional questions and communications from me as though I had bought their most expensive model new from their plant.  The willingness of the staff [from the President on down] to answer questions and provide repeated assistance in helping me at every turn has been highly impressive.  Although selling me one of their new boats was naturally their goal, what seems to matter most to them is that I am an American Sail owner. Period. They treat me with the same regard as if I had purchased new from them directly.  That type of service and respect goes a long way to instilling high confidence in having chosen the right product and manufacturer, and commends them highly to me for future boating needs. It also gives me great confidence in recommending them and their products to anyone else who is trying to decide in which direction to go.  Thanks so much for your most helpful assistance.

Lee H., Wingate, NC

(American 14.6)  We bought our boat from Dave Stanton at a boat show in 2000 and have sailed it summers in Niantic Bay, CT.  This bay is nationally known as a challenging sailing venue for its frequently changing winds and waves.  The boat handles well in light and strong wind and is relatively easy to launch and retrieve off a beach using a dolly.  The rigging/unrigging is quick and easy and the origninal equipment has held up extremely well through use and outside storage in the winter.  Recently I ordered new battens and received them two days laster at (surprise!) the same price listed on my 2000 parts list!  We are very pleased with out American Sail 14.6 and get lots of "that's a great looking boat" comments and would recommend it to anyone looking for a small daysailer.

Frank C., Niantic, CT

(American 14.6) I currently have a 14.6 American Sail and it is a real winner for "pickup and take a sail".  I've owned several sail boats and by and large the 14.6 is the easiest to trail, launch in shallow water and "Sail off to Key Largo".  It sails exceptionally well in light air and is very stable in "spanking" breezes.  The rigging, halyards, and jib/main sheets are easily accessible and work flawlessly.  The key is thier simplicity and color coordination of lines.  Mine is powered by a long shaft 4HP Merc outboard which is more than ample.  While the gas outboard is better for longer range, an electric motor would be sufficient for creek or small lake sailing.  Innovative storage in the forward area is more than adequate.  The 14.6 is a joy and great value all of which are backed up by a company that is customer focused, responsive to owners needs with a solid reputation obtained the old fashioned way..."They earned it"

George P., Aquia Creek, VA

(Pennant)  What a great little boat!!!  My children wanted a boat that was "theirs", one they could take out on their own and maybe take a friend.  I wanted something that was fun and easy to sail but stable.  The Pennant fit the bill perfectly.  It's incredibly easy to sail.  It's a good performer, and it's A LOT of fun!!!  At the same time, the hull is incredibly stable.  I feel good about the children sitting "in" the boat rather than on top of it, and it handles the watkes of the skiers and go fast boats perfectly.  The sail plan is large enough to offer good performance, but small enough that I don't worry about it being overpowering for the children.  I'm not sure it's possible for the wind to knock it down.  The other thing that I was looking for in a boat was a sail plan that would translate to our Catalina 30.  My children are learning to work a jib and main to the point that when we went out on the 30 this last weekend, I told my 11 year old that I would him set the trim throughout the trip without my interference.  He sailed her perfectly.  The only issus I've had with the Pennant is that I haven't gotten to use my 30 as much as I would like.  When I say, "do you want to go sailing?" I always get the same response.  "Yeah!!, Can we take the Pennant?"  Dave and the staff at American Sail are wonderful to work with.  They build a relationship with you and work with you to build your dream, not just make a sale.  Given the opportunity, I would make the same decision over and over again.

Les, G., Colonial Beach, VA

(American 14.6)  I have just completed my first summer of owning an American 14.6. I had not sailed in about 25 years and at that time I sailed a penguin. I had been casually looking for a sailboat and discovered the American boat at the (Chesapeake) Bay Bridge Boat Show. It was important for me to find a comfortable boat that supported my back as I have some medical problems with my lower back. The boat was just what I wanted. It was comfortable and supported my back and was very stable. The high boom was a plus providing good visibility and no need to duck the boom. I sailed the boat by myself with both the jib and the main and also with the main alone. It was no problem to step the mast and rig the boat by myself. I liked to sail in the stronger winds as the boat moved pretty fast and heeled in the wind for some fun and challenge. While I kept the boat on a jet ski lift at my dock and only launched and retrieved it once, I was pleasantly surprised at the ease in which it winched back onto the trailer. Much easier than my power boat. I am glad I bought this boat and would recommend it and American Sail without hesitation.   Elizabeth S., Royal Oak, MD

(American 14.6)  A novice with an interest in sailing. That's me, then and now.  I spent 20 years in the Air Force bouncing around in transports and helicopters, but have always been interested in sailing.  I live in a great area for it, with lakes, rivers, large bodies of water (Long Island Sound and the North Shore).  The conditions vary greatly.  I needed a boat that could get in and out of dock at low tide and still handle the rough water and was simple to use.  I was lucky to have purchased the American 14.6 as my first boat.  You can read my adventures as I teach myself and learn to sail at http://mysailboat.angelfire.com/blog/ . I can not think of a better first boat.  We all love the fact that we can pull up on beaches in deserted areas and have a picnic, then just pack up and leave as easy as can be.  And the fact that its trailerable means no expensive mooring fees.  We just take it home and park in the driveway when we are not using it on the water.

Thanks for a great product and great customer support.

Terry W., Kings Park, NY

(American 14.6)  We absolutely love the boat.  My wife stays dry and comfortable on the boat, so thank you very much for that added bonus.  Our experience with boats this size left us damp and sore (that was just getting the boat in the water!).  The American 14.6 handles fantastic in light winds or stiff breeze.  This sailboat is the perfect solution for a boat that is easy to trailer, rig, and sail.  It is wonderful to spend more time sailing than rigging and trailering.  It is nice to be back on the lake. Thank You.

Lee E., Troutman, NC

(Sail Dink)  I just got off the phone after talking with "old Dave" about my sailing Dink.  I orginally purchased this back in 1994 as a tender for my 27 foot sloop.  I taught my daughters how to row and actually acquired a second Sail Dink which we used for harbor match racing.  Now, 13 years later I still have one of the Dinks that my youngest daugher at 11 years of age can fully rig and sail herself!  Thanks for making such a great boat, now starting it's third generation of use in my family.

Shawn M., South Dartmouth, MA

(American 18) Hi Dave and Chris....My American 18 was delivered on May 25th.  As of today July 17th, she has been launched and sailed 16 times in Fishers and Long Island sound and the Thames River.  Extremely pleased to say the least.  Very nicely balanced boat and on a few occasions with gusts estimated from 15 to 20 knots a spirited but stable platform.  Easy to heave to.  Ideal weather helm.  Unquestionably made the right choice.  The Honda 2hp air cooler outboard is more than adequate, GPS reports that at less than full throttle I get 5 to 6 knots no problem.  Dave's recommendation that I opt for the swim ladder and plexiglass storage hatch was right on.  In a nutshell I love this boat and everyone I have taken for a sail has been unanimously impressed.  My son flew in from California, rigged his HD Pro Video camera on the mast and captured some very spriited sailing, planing on a beam reach but as mentioned above no problem with maintaining a relatively level stance.  OK, so I love this boat.  Thanks and keep up the good work.

Chris L., Gales Ferry, CT

(American 14.6) My wife and I both have sailing experience including racing on everything from small dinghies to E-Scows to 10-meter offshore racers.  However, I think our 14.6 might provide the most enjoyable sailing experience.  It's easy for one person to set up , and can be sailed single-handed, and is roomy enough we can take a few friends out for a fun day on the water.  The hull and all components are well-made and maintenance is minimal, so this is a very easy boat to own.  We're looking forward to many years of fun in ther waters around Charleston, SC in our 14.6

Bobby B., Wadmalaw Island, SC

(American 14.6)  At the end of our first season with our 14.6 nears, I just wanted to let you know how much we have enjoyed our new boat.  It is very comfortable and very easy to launch, sail, and recover.  It performs well in light air as well as in windy conditions.  it is easy to keep clean and maintain.  All in all, we couldn't have made a better choice and we really love sail it.  We constantly get inquiries about it on the ramp.  We highly recommend it to all who ask about it. 

Don S., Kalamazoo, MI

 (American 14.6)  David, I just wanted to let you know what a great summer I had sailing my American Sail 14.6.  I really enjoyed getting out on the water and the boat performed wonderfully, not even one capsize :=).  One of my neighbors saw the boat, he was so impressed he just ordered his own.  So we have the start of our own sailing club, we're looking forward to sailing together next summer.  I also want to let you know how impressed I have been working with you and the American Sail staff.  Your support has been wonderful, you definitely make it feel like I am dealing with a friend, not just a company.

Louis D., Elliicott City, MD

(Pennant)  What a vessel! If your looking for a sailing dinghy which you can row and use as a dinghy, look no further!  Superb quality throughout and the sail rig is great with the main and jib combo.  She's very stable, and a blast to sail, and she is great for trailering. My cruising grounds are Newport, RI, Wilmington VT, and Marthas Vineyard.  Would you like to get into sailing?  Check out American Sail!  American Sail keep up the great, quality work!

Andrew G., Ellington, CT

(Pennant)  I've been a Scot, then Sfish sailor for many years with a good deal of experience in most conditions.  Both were great boats, but I wanted a samll, light boat that I could sail, row, and motor.  One that I could rig and get on the water quickly, but had comfortable seating.  After extensive research I was still undecided, so I went to the 2014 sailboat show in Annapolis to see what was available.  After looking at many boats from other manufacturers, I came upon Dave Stanton of American Sail with his various models on display.  The Pennant immediately caught m eye.  it was the ideal boat!  Sturdy build quality and classic lines, it was the quintessential dinghy at a fraction of the price of the others I had found.  I bought it on the spot.   Performance far exceeded my expectations.  It rows like a feather and glides with each stroke.  Her maiden voyage was on an 80 foot deep, 1275 acre lake.  The wind was terrific, so I excercised caution and only set the main sail.  The stout little boat handled the high winds with ease and stability.  I then hoisted the jib and it fairly leapt to life, the rudder churning the water like it was an outboard motor!  Dave designed this boat very well indeed.  Recently I wanted to register it for use with a motor in PA, but I couldn't locate the required documents.  I called American Sail and Dave answered the phone.  He mailed copies of my papers which I received in just a couple of das.  No matter what boats I buy in the future, I'll never part with my Pennant.

Steve J, Harrisburg, PA

(Pennant) Just a quick note to let you know I've been sailing our new Pennant.  It is more fun than a barrel of monkeys!  Living in central Arizona, I used to dread the desert wind.  Having this lively little boat sure cured that problem.  I rigged and sailed it the first time on our little 40 area neighborhood pond, just to get the feel of handling the rig.  Since that time, we've sailed in everthing from 5-25 mph breezes out on the bigger irrigation lake.  Being able to transport and launch virtuall anywhere is a huge plus.  For example, yesterday all the launch ramps faced straight into a cold north wind.  So i had to search out a sheltered cove for put in and take out.  No problem.  You've produced a great little craft.  Now all we need is more breezy days.  Boy I never thought I'd be saing that!  Again Thanks!

Steve L., Goodyear, AZ

(American 14.6)  We bought an American 14.6 in the spring of last year (2018).  We have owned and sailed many boats from a 12.6 foot Barnstable cat to a 27 foot Thunderbird.  This is the easiest boat that I have ever sailed.  It is a stable boat which sails well in light and heavier winds.  With its 4 inch draft it is well suited for the Brewster Flats on Cape Cod.  This boat is a very comfortable boat to sail by oneself or with up to four adults.  The roller furling jib is a wonderful option.  The high boom makes for a most enjoyable sail.  Perhaps the best part of buying the boat is the outstanding customer service.  Dave Stanton stands behind his product and is readily available to answer questions or it immediately ship a part.  We have been very pleased with our purchase.  I can't wait for my second summer of sailing the American 14.6.

Mary S., Brewster, MA

(American 18)  Hi Dave, went sailing today by myself.  Winds were 15mph so I decided to try reefing the main sail.  I've never had a boat with that capability.  The boat launched, sailed, and re-trailed perfectly.  All by one person.  I was looking on internet for American 18 boats used.  I was shocked to see asking price on a six year old boat, $11,000!  I guess they hold their value.  Thanks again, happy customer.  Can't wait for next season.  I didn't just buy a boat, I got a great service company also.

Joe W., Tiffin, OH

(American 14.6)  My wife and I met Dave at the Atlanta Boat Show in January 2018.  We sat in the A14.6 and discussed it's attributes.  I was a sailor in my mid 50's looking to graduate to a boat we could sit in, not on.  I couldn't find another boat on the market that suited our needs better.  We picked up our new 14.6 in April and have had the time of our lives with it since.  We named her "Tranquility" because of the way we feel while sailing her.  After a good sail we love to find a quiet cove to anchor for lunch and a swim.  The optional swim ladder was a good call for us.  The electric trolling motor is perfect for getting in and out of port on the Georgia lakes we explore.  Thank you Dave and the crew in Charleston for building such an affordable, enjoyable product.

Tim P., Georgia

(Sail Dink) My sailing Dink was built in 1994.  She has been a pure delight.  She is in excellent condition (at 23 years old) except for a few minor blemishes caused by hurricane Charlie.  Just wanted you to know how pleased I am with your wonder product.  Keep up the good work!

Elaine M., Punta Gorda, FL

(American 18)  Chris, I just wanted to check in with you after my second season with my American 18.  I had not sailed in over 20 years and my previous experience was with a 14' boat.  When I decided to go with the American 18, there were some questions and apprehension.  I can tell you I am so glad I went with the American 18.  I was concerned with towing and launching a larger boat as well as my ability to sail this larger boat alone.  I am very pleased with the boat, I can sail it alone or I have plenty of room to carry grandkids and teach them to sail.  Last year I stuck to Jordan Lake and the back bays and sounds of NC.  This last week I was ready for a new challenge.  With 8mph winds from the north, I launched from Beaufort, NC and went out the linlet into the open Atlantic.  Amazing feeling to sail past Ft. Macon and out to Cape Lookout, back to the sound at Cape Lookout lighthouse and back to Beaufort.  Total 32 mile sail.  The boat handles well and the 18' allows me more freedom to challenge myself in open water and still easy to launch and enjoy a full day at Jordan Lake.  I can easily handle the boat alone, it is also easy to launch from the public boat ramps.  The 2.3 HP outboard engine had plenty of power and maneuverability for launching and no wind situations.  Here in Eastern NC, we have almost unlimited sailing opportunities all year and I am glad I can enjoy these adventures with my grandkids in the boat.

Doug C., Fayetteville, NC

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2004 American Sail Inc 14.6 Daysailer

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Please call owner Brett 410-4747-0242. Boat Location: Chesapeake Beach, Maryland..

OVERVIEW: The spacious, comfortable 14 6 American has a wide, 6 beam and a hand laid fiberglass flat-bottom planing hull and deck, A heavy-duty rubrail with insert protects the gunwale, The boat is speedy and stable, sailing flat with minimal heel, It has exceptional performance in a light breeze or moderate wind, even reaching a plane when on a broad reach with one to four adult occupants, In strong wind it sails well under main alone, and the main can be reefed if needed, The anodized boom is above head-height of seated occupants, The hull is constructed with copious closed cell foam floatation, which adds to boat safety features The anodized 226 mast is tabernacle based, which allows easy stepping. The roomy 20-inch depth, self-bailing cockpit provides comfortable 8-foot inboard bench seating for up to four adults, The kick-up centerboard and rudder facilitate launching and retrieving; and they allow going into shallow water near beaches, With the centerboard and rudder raised the boat has an 8 draft; with the centerboard down the draft is only 42.

The Wesco galvanized trailer is designed and fitted for the sailboat, The American 14.6 daysailer is outstanding to take a family for an enjoyable sail and picnic.

Equipment: The American 14.6 Daysailer is ideal for those who are seeking a spacious and comfortable daysailer which is also designed for speed and performance. Design features include a self bailing cockpit, molded in drink cooler storage areas, three storage compartments, kickup rudder and centerboard, adjustable jib tracks, Harken hardware, and stainless rigging.

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The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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I just bought a '92 American 14.6, and the centerboard lines (uphaul and downhaul) need to be replaced. I've ordered the lines from American, hoping for an easy fix. But is this something that can be done with the boat on the trailer? Or in the water? Or does the boat need to be up in the air? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk  

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I googled the boat, they're 340 lbs, so you could likely do it in any of the places mentioned. I think if it was me, I'd beach it and role it over on it's side.  

Just in case anybody finds this thread in the future, I managed the task a couple of days ago. The nice folks at American emailed an instruction sheet, and it turns out the entire operation can be done with the boat still on the trailer. There's room to slide the centerboard forward once the lines are allowed to drop down from above. I used a coat hanger and some electrical tape to get the new lines through the holes/pulleys, and I jockeyed the board up and down, fore and aft as my helper pushed the bolt through the holes. American says it can be done in 30 minutes, and I'm sure it could with some practice. Took me a little less than an hour.  

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I just bought a 1990 American Sail 14-6 and I wish to put new lines on the Centerboard. I'd love it if you'd send those instructions to me!  

Hey Quillpig, AdvenJack, getting dangerous without line replacement and cannot get dealer response : ( do either of you have the instructions and diagram, please?  

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  23. American 14.6 Centerboard Line Replacement

    Quillpig Discussion starter. 12 posts · Joined 2016. #1 · Jul 22, 2017. I just bought a '92 American 14.6, and the centerboard lines (uphaul and downhaul) need to be replaced. I've ordered the lines from American, hoping for an easy fix. But is this something that can be done with the boat on the trailer?